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RFT Ep 226 – Free Thinkers Club Edition

Posted by Don McLenaghen on September 24, 2013


Don’s Rant about Pope Francis…based on recent comments, could the pope be a closeted atheist? Or maybe the first communist pope?

“Let me start off with a rant Pope Francis. This is a pope that really confuses me. As the follow up act to the former Nazi former Pope Benedict, who also did some time as Darth Vader’s boss, anyone would seem to be an improvement.

That said, some recent comments by the pope has lead me to start to think that he is a closet atheist…or worse…a communist!

When the pope took office people were expecting a very humble papacy. No more the Prada shoes of his predecessor. He is famous, as a cardinal, for living in a shared apartment…taking the bus to work and just being a quote man of the common people.

He has renounced or at least redefined Papal infallibility as being ‘consensus’ or communal infallibility. That, as he put it “All the faithful, considered as a whole, are infallible in matters of belief”. He avoid the accusation of popularize by adding that this group-think is influence by the holy spirit…making it gods will or something. Thus the whole church and not just the pope or the priestly class are infallible.

Well recently he came out and in commenting on Jesus said that some in the church say “If he is not one of us, he cannot do good. If he is not of our party, he cannot do good”. He then commented that the church was “were a little intolerant”. Then capped it with “The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ, all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! Even the atheists. Everyone!” exclamation point.

And followed that up with “if a homosexual person is of good will and is in search of God, I am no one to judge” and just a few days ago he said “The church’s pastoral ministry cannot be obsessed with a disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently…the church cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods”.

So, I was beginning to think that maybe the pope is a closeted atheist. He has said many times that to quote on instance “I am a sinner. This is the most accurate definition. It is not a figure of speech, a literary genre. I am a sinner”. What if his sin is apostasy?

Well, the pope let me down this Saturday when he came out stating that “Every child that isn’t born, but is unjustly condemned to be aborted, has the face of Jesus Christ, has the face of the Lord” and sees abortion as a symptom of our, to quote, our throw away society.

So then I was thinking, he also said…”Money sickens our minds, poisons our thoughts…[it] leading us down the path of jealousy, and conflict. It drives to idle words and pointless discussions… We can never serve God and money at the same time”

So maybe not an atheist but a communist…well lefty socialist at least. So, I am expecting anytime soon that the Vatican Bank and the Catholic Church in general to be writing everyone who is poor a nice big check.”


Find out more:


We also have an interview with Pratyush Dhawan and Darren Bell from the UBC Free Thinkers Club. We discuss atheism, skepticism, humanism, and just what is “free thinking”.

We also discuss ‘natural spiritualism’, humanity becoming an inter-stellar species, and the moral landscape.


Find out more:

Download the episode here! 

Next week, host emeritus Ethan Clow will join me to discuss…well, its going to be a surprise, tune in and find out!


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