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Show notes for Episode 47

Posted by Ethan Clow on January 29, 2010

Radio Freethinker episode 47 – Hour long Olympics episode, we discuss civil rights, security and media with special guest Dave Olson.

Song: The Official Theme song of the Vancouver Whistler 2010 Olympic Games by Geoff Berner

Links:

Dave Olson: http://uncleweed.net/ and http://truenorthmediahouse.com/

Mike Adams “what skeptics really believe”

CCTV and security cameras: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/the-big-question-are-cctv-cameras-a-waste-of-money-in-the-fight-against-crime-822079.html

Click to access hors292.pdf

http://v2010isu.com/ViewPage.action?siteNodeId=516&languageId=1&contentId=6821#faq-sp-venues-cctv

http://privacy.openflows.org/lyon_paper.html

Bill 13 – MISCELLANEOUS STATUTES AMENDMENT ACT, 2009 http://www.leg.bc.ca/39th1st/3rd_read/gov13-3.htm

Events:

UBC Freethinkers

Gwynne Dyer talk

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Slaves nor Aliens built the Pyramids

Posted by Ethan Clow on January 20, 2010

Pseudo history is one of those topics that never goes away no matter how much evidence you throw at it. I actually blogged about this very fact over at Skeptic North a few weeks ago.

picture by Ricardo Liberato

Egypt recently put on display a series of tombs around the Great Pyramids of Giza that demonstrate that the pyramids were not built by slaves. Read about it here. Now, on Radio Freethinker we had previously talked about there being no evidence for Jewish slaves in Egypt and now we have evidence that slaves (regardless of nationality) didn’t build the pyramids. So who did?

The assertion is that paid labourers built the impressive landmarks. The evidence is that the tombs being built so close to the pyramids indicates that the builders were from poor families, who were paid for the their labour and were respected enough to be buried next to their Pharaoh. Now we might guff at this but to an ancient Egyptian, this was probably a huge honour. The tombs contained remnants of food and items that would indicate that the workers were paid, given a better quality of food then typical Egyptian subjects, and were probably treated with some degree of respect.

This is a good example of evidence based research being done in other fields besides science. Often in skepticism we think of only the sciences, but this shows that fields like history, anthropology and archaeology are also evidence based and require critical thinking and solid evidence.

What this also proves is that humans built the pyramids. As opposed to “Ancient Astronauts.”  A rather extraordinary suggestion that human civilization (art, myths, social organization) were all introduced by aliens.  This claim is most famously promoted by Erich von Däniken author of Chariots of the Gods, written in 1968.  Daniken suggests that the pyramids and other ancient architecture is too advanced to be created by humans and that aliens were the ones who built them.  He cites examples like artwork from ancient civilizations that look like space ships. He also claims that unconnected civilizations that created similar art must have had contact with each other via aliens.

So what’s his evidence?

He made some of it up. He forged evidence that was discovered to be fake by a Nova documentary.

The rest of his evidence is taking a conclusion (ancient astronauts) and then retro fitting data to prove it. All sorts of logically fallacies are found in his work, especially the either or fallacy. “Either these archaeological structures were built by stupid primitive humans or more plausibly, they were built by aliens from a distant world with anti-gravity and faster than light technology.”

Despite the fact that his theories have been thoroughly debunked and that Daniken admitted to creating fraudulent pieces of evidence and that Chariots has been accused of plagiarizing ideas from HP Lovecraft…

Theories of ancient astronauts and pseudo history continue.

Graham Hancock is a writer and pseudo-archaeologists who claims that Atlantis, or possibly Aliens from Atlantis, helped create the many civilizations on Earth. He’s also written extensively on the “face on mars.”

He suggests that the common source for ancient civilizations like Egypt and Mesoamerica is Atlantis. But there are some huge problems with such a theory. I won’t go into them all (simply because that would take hours and hours) but here’s one that I find really odd: why would Atlantis teach Egyptians one language and Mesoamerica another language. Why would Atlantis tell Egypt to use their pyramids as tombs and nothing more and Mesoamerica to use their pyramids for sacrifices? Why wouldn’t Atlantis share step making with Egyptians like they obviously did with Mesoamerica?

(Okay, that was three.)

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Show notes for Episode 46

Posted by Ethan Clow on January 20, 2010

Radio Freethinker episode 46 – Pub Quiz follow up, lost episode 45, Ignatieff talk at UBC, Slaves didn’t build the pyramids

Song: We are the Champions by Queen

Western Canada Skeptical Podcast Showdown: http://assholeskeptic.blogspot.com/2010/01/from-dust-of-skeptical-smackdown.html

Science stories: Oil navigates maze , Newton’s falling apple story

Slaves didn’t build the Pyramids:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/science/new-discoveries-suggest-slaves-didnt-build-pyramids/article1426649/

New Facebook page!

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Michael Ignatieff visits UBC: Greenpeace makes environmentalists look bad

Posted by Daniel Gipps on January 17, 2010

Greenpeace protesters disrupt town hall

Michael Thibault/Crimson Phoenix Photography

On Friday, Liberal Party leader Michael Ignatieff came to UBC as part of his Cross-Canada campus town-hall series. The event was definitely successful, with one of the Liberal organizers estimating about 1,200 people inside UBC’s Norm Theatre as well as outside in an overflow area connected via video. While I doubt that number is accurate, it certainly was impressive to see so many people come out to hear from, and ask questions to, the leader of the official opposition.

The focus of the questions was on the environment, and specifically climate change. Ignatieff was asked many questions ranging from what he will do to meet the Kyoto Protocol, which he more or less dodged a committal answer to, to whether he supports the Alberta tar sands. To his credit, he did give a strong and committed answer, even though those asking him the question were openly hostile towards him, and hardly gave him a chance to speak.

Ignatieff made it clear many times that he will continue to stand behind the tar sands. The National Post quotes him as saying, “If you’re asking me to shut down the tar sands, it’s not in my power to do so, and frankly, it’s not in the national interest of our country to do so”. What Greenpeace seems ignorant of, or more likely, chooses to ignore, is that the Constitution Act of 1867 specifically gives jurisdiction on matters of natural resources to the provinces. Not only is it a bad idea to just shut the tar sands down, it is not even possibly for Ignatieff to do this if he wanted to. The courts would almost certainly rule against the legality of any legislation designed to do that.

It seems to me that Greenpeace and some other environmental organizations absolutely hate the ideas of individual freedom, rule of law, and populist but limited governments. To them, these long established ideas that have existed to benefit individuals and protect us from overbearing governments exist only as barriers to their own specific goals. Rather than educating individuals to act more environmentally friendly, or at the very least educating voters so that they know the facts about global warming and can vote for logical, evidence backed solutions like a carbon tax, they would rather disrupt civil town-halls, destroy coral reefs while campaigning to save them, and disregard science all in pointless attempts to put in place policies that few Canadians support.

Greenpeace needs to go back to its roots, back to when it followed science not activism, and when it was about education not protesting.

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Show notes for the lack of Episode 45

Posted by Ethan Clow on January 15, 2010

Due to a technical error episode 45 was not recorded properly and thus is not availible for podcast. It was heard live on CiTR 101.9FM at 4pm PST on Tuesday the 12th but unfortunately it was not recorded.

We apologize to our listeners and subscribers for the mishap. I would also like apologize to Dr. Chris Shaw and Dr. Rob Tarzwell, our guests for that show, hopefully we can have them back on the show at a later date.

We’ll be back Tuesday the 19th with a new show with some great topics so be sure to tune in!

EDIT: from Rob – Hey everyone – I’ve got emails from both Dr. Tarzwell and Dr. Shaw with links and citations to all the articles and research they made on the air.  I’ll post those up soon, so watch this space!  If all goes well, and the Dr.s agree, we could have them post quick comments here to put the links in context and summarise what was said in the episode.

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Heroic Miep Gies passes away at 100

Posted by Ethan Clow on January 15, 2010

Today I was saddened to hear that Miep Gies died. For those who don’t know, Miep Gies was one of the “helpers” who protected Ann Frank and her family while they hid in her father’s office attic.

As most people know, the story of Anne Frank is chronicled in her diaries that many of us have read. In actuality there are two versions. The 1953 version is edited for content (much to the chagrin of historians) a complete version is The Diary of a Young Girl: The Definitive Edition.

If you don’t know the story of Anne Frank than I’m hesitant to tell you, I’d much rather you read her diary. Her words are far more powerful than mine.

I would like to talk a bit about Miep Gies though.

She was born in 1909 in Vienna; she moved to the Netherlands after the First World War and decided to stay there.

She grew up and eventually became the secretary of Otto Frank in 1933. She became friends with Otto Frank and his family, and their daughters Margot and Anne. The Frank’s had fled Germany to escape Jewish persecution.

When Germany invaded the Netherlands in 1940, the Franks, as Jews, were in mortal danger. So they went into hiding. Otto asked Miep for help. She agreed to not only to hide the family and keep them a secret even though she was risking her life just for that alone. She also brought them food and supplies and companionship. For more than two years, together with her colleagues Johannes Kleiman, Victor Kugler and Bep Voskuijl. She made sure that Otto, his wife Edith and their daughters Margot and Anne were kept safe.

Tragically they were betrayed and the Frank family along with the Van Pels family, who were hiding with them, were captured and transferred to concentration camps. Miep preserved the diaries and when Otto Frank was released she returned the last trace of Anne Frank to her father.

She continued to lead a courageous life, telling the world of Anne Frank, speaking out against neo-Nazi’s who denied the diary, and corresponding with people whose lives she touched.

You can find more information about Miep and the Franks at the Anne Frank House website.

On a personal note, I visited the Anne Frank House when I was in Amsterdam. I’d like to share some the notes I wrote about that experience from two years ago.

” You can walk through the rooms and they have quotes from her diary and pictures and of her family. There are also small exhibits of stuff that was left behind, videos that show interviews with people who worked there and such. It’s pretty emotional and ultimately it’s a very tragic story.

One neat antidote I heard was from an interview with one of the helpers who was there. Miep Gies told how she came into the room one day and didn’t realize Anne was there, and when she saw her, at her desk writing Anne gave her this really angry look and slammed her diary closed. Anne’s mother came in and said, “Miep, you see, we have a daughter who writes…” And Anne looked up at Miep giving her this uppity look and said “Yes, and I’m writing about you too!” and walked out of the room. “

Miep was the last surviving members of Anne Franks protectors. She insisted for her whole life that she wasn’t a hero for protecting the Franks. She said that her actions were those of a human being helping someone in need and she did was anyone else would do. However I think the tragic lesson of the Holocaust is that Miep’s actions were far from what anyone would do…in actuality it was the opposite. Most chose to do nothing.

Miep, I know you claimed to not be a hero, but I respectfully disagree.

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Show notes for Episode 44

Posted by Ethan Clow on January 6, 2010

Radio Freethinker episode 44 – Dr. Paul Offit being sued by anti-vaccination groups, Ahead of the curve with Don, Skeptical challenge from Desiree Schell

Song: Our Place in the Cosmos by John Boswell http://www.symphonyofscience.com/

Links:
Dr. Paul Offit sued by anti-vaccination groups.

http://scepticsbook.com/wp-content/uploads/Arthur-v.-Offitv2.pdf

http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=1418

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2716

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience/

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/12/the_anti-vaccine_movement_shows_just_how.php

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2415
The World at Night: http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/event.php?eid=240450058085

Skeptics in the pub quiz: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=app_2344061033&ref=profile&id=1268610986#/event.php?eid=207847836903&index=1

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